TRINITY DOCTRINE - A FACT OR A THEORY?

WHAT IS THE TRINITY DOCTRINE?
Everyone should agree there is a Father, a Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ, the Son of God. The Trinity Doctrine, however, goes far beyond that. The official Trinity Doctrine states: 1. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are different in purpose but each is equal in authority and 100% Jehovah. 2. Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit are all separate deities that are part of a single Godhead. 2. God is three persons (a Triune God). This Godhead is the one and only God, Jehovah, listed in the Bible. 3. Jesus is God. 4. 1/3 of the Godhead became flesh in the person of Jesus Christ (hypostasis). Jesus came in human form, but gave up part of his godliness in the process. Jesus then gave us the person of the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. In the meantime, the Father is in Heaven. In other words, Jesus is not only the Son of God, but actually Jehovah. 5. You must be Catholic and believe the Trinity Doctrine to be saved. Most Protestants are unaware that they do not believe the full Trinity Doctrine. Neither are they aware that the Trinity Doctrine is neither mentioned nor explained in the Bible but formulated and fully explained by the Catholic Church. In other words. it is supposedly in the Bible, but neither Jesus nor his disciples could explain it. However, the Catholic church explained it perfectly. Do we need to explain Jesus was born of a virgin? Do we need to explain that Jesus died on the cross to save us from sin? Do we need to explain Paul was converted? Of course not, then why do we need to explain a triune God? Red flags should start to go up that lift the veil of indoctrination.

The term Godhead (AKA Godhed) was used in old English Bibles more than 400 years ago. However, modern versions are more accurate since they are translated directly into modern English from older Greek manuscripts which predated the Catholic Church's belief in the Trinity in the late fourth century. I checked 17 popular versions of the Bible, and only three mention a "Godhead" as being part of original Scripture. In addition to the KJV, the ASV (American Standard Version), and The Noah Webster Bible also uses the word “Godhead,” but the ASV and the Noah Webster versions are based on the King James Version. However, newer counterparts, the NKJV (New King James Version) and the NASV (New American Standard Version) both changed the term to "Divine Nature." Regardless, the term “Godhead” does not literally describe the Trinity or refer to Jesus anywhere in the Bible in any popular version. It is very important to know the term "Godhead" (KJV) is used only in Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, and 1 Colossians 2:9. In none of these three Scriptures is "Godhead" shown to be the combination of Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit. Example:
Rom 1:20-21 KJV...... "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew GOD, they glorified HIM not as GOD, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." As you can see, Godhead refers to God's (singular) divinity.

WHY AM I INTERESTED IN THE TRINITY DOCTRINE?
Like most other Christians, I never questioned the doctrine of the Trinity because I have been taught this concept from as early as I can remember. Then, I decided to write about the nature of God in my book Bible Power for Salvation. I intended to show what the Bible says about the Trinity. I just wanted to have a little better understanding about the nature of God. I did not find any specific information about the Trinity in the Bible, so I came to the conclusion that God wants us to worship him, and not to worry about the nature of God since it is beyond our understanding. However, as time went on, I did not understand why other people seem to claim they understand the nature of God by being adamant about the Trinity Doctrine. I thought I must be missing something.

In my continued study of the Trinity doctrine, I analyzed facts rather than try to justify or understand any theories or doctrines. I always knew the term “Trinity” was never used in the Bible; but quite to my surprise, I also found out that: there is no specific explanation of the doctrine in any of the 66 books of the Bible. Moreover, that is 30,102 verses. Wikipedia also states; “Scripture contains neither the word Trinity, nor an expressly formulated doctrine of the Trinity.” No explanation that Jesus is God. No explanation that the Holy Spirit is an entity separate from God. No scripture that says the Father, son, and Holy spirit are equal. Finally, no mention of the concept of a Godhead. It appeared that only the Catholic Trinity Doctrine explains a triune Godhead. I then decided to do even more in-depth study to find out what I was missing and put a chapter on the Trinity in my second book, Bible Power for Foggy Issues. I now was more skeptical, but I had an open mind in my study and first studied the facts before reaching a conclusion.

THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD
Scripture clearly states there is only one God. In trying to justify the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as each being 100 percent God, Trinity designers actually made a fourth God by trying to prove there is only one God. That God is the Godhead. Trinity doctrine states that God Almighty is made up of three beings that are all 100 percent God. So, if we are speaking about “God,” are we talking about Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit, or Jehovah, the Godhead? The Godhead became the one and only God. Is not the Godhead 100 percent God even more God than its individual components? Let’s be honest; if four beings are 100 percent God, then mathematically there are four Gods. Since Trinity doctrine shows that the Godhead does not have a separate personality or soul, how can the Godhead be a god or separate being at all? Without a separate personality or individual soul, the Godhead is reduced to just a grouping of three 100 percent Gods. God said he is “I AM”, not WE ARE. Is Jehovah actually 3 individual deities speaking at one time, or just one God speaking? The Catholic Church, believe it or not, officially considers Jehovah as the Father, but this confuses things even more. Shouldn’t Jehovah (the Father) be 2 in 1 (Jesus and the Holy Spirit)? Just look at the Catholic Shield of the Trinity. Shouldn’t the Father be at the center if the Father is the Godhead?
1. Deu 6:4-5 KJV...... Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
2. Mark 12:29 KJV...... “And Jesus answered him, the first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:”
3. Mark 12:32 KJV...... “And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he”
4. Joh 17:3 KJV...... And this is life eternal, that they might know the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

The word “God” is used 1372 times in the KJV New Testament. If you believe the Trinity doctrine, you actually have a lot of choices. The word “God” can mean seven different things. You might say, how do you figure? Remember, neither the Father, Son, or Holy Ghost alone is the one and only God Jehovah. But what if one is talking to the other two? Then, 2/3 of the Godhead should still be called “God.” After all, only 1/3 of the Godhead is always called God, so using Trinity Doctrine logic, the remaining 2/3 is also equal to 1.
1. God the Father
2. God the Son
3. God the Holy Spirit
4. God the Godhead
5. God the Spirit and the Father when Jesus spoke to the Godhead.
6. God the Holy Spirit and Jesus, if the Father speaks to the Godhead.
7. God Jesus and the Father, if the Spirit speaks to the Godhead.
If you do not believe in the Trinity doctrine the answer is very simple. If we follow scripture, we know there is only one God, not 3 Gods in one. The Father is the one God. The Father is Lord of heaven and earth. Jesus came from the Father and will return from the Father. The Father is the God of all – not a Godhead.

WHO IS THIS ONE GOD?
There are many names or titles for God mentioned in the Bible. The Hebrews referred to God as Elohim, Yahweh, El Shaddai (the Almighty), God Almighty, El Elyon, Adonai, Creator, Everlasting Father, Glorious Lord, the Most High God, Light of Israel and many other generic titles such as the Father, and the Shepherd. However, God tells us his formal name was even hidden from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. God explained his Hebrew name is Jehovah (YHWH, Yehwah), also known as the “Tetragrammaton,” and is translated "Jehovah" by the KJV, but "God Almighty" by the NIV. The Hebrews revere the true name of God, YHWH, so much that they were not even allowed to say it out loud. Even today many Jews will not say it out load. God also said he may be called I AM. Jesus, however, is never called Jehovah or “I AM” by anyone in the Bible.
1. Gen 35:11 KJV...... And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins.
2. Exo 3:14 KJV...... And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
3. Exo 6:3 KJV...... And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

God’s most popular titles is “Father.” It not only establishes a relationship of authority, but also a personal relationship of love. (FYI: this father/son relationship is considered blasphemy by Islam.) The roots of this father/child relationship begin in the Old Testament. It states that the Father was considered God.
1. Psa 2:7 KJV.... I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
a. This is King David speaking, and I believe this is the first verse in the Bible that makes the analogy that God has a father/son relationship with us.
b. This verse also puts into doubt the meaning of “begotten” as being something supernatural that some people use to establish that Jesus is one substance with the Father. Needless to say, begotten or begat is used many times in the Bible. It is NEVER used to prove one person is the same as another.
2. Psa 89:26 KJV...... He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation.
a. Again, we see an analogy that will carry on throughout the whole bible.
b. We also see “the rock” used as one of the many metaphors for God.
3. Isaiah 63:16......” Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O Lord, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting” (KJV).
a. God is our Father.
b. God is also our Redeemer in the sense that he often saved the nation of Israel from destruction.
4. Jer 3:19 KJV...... But I said, how shall I put thee among the children, and give thee a pleasant land, a goodly heritage of the hosts of nations? and I said, Thou shalt call me, My father; and shalt not turn away from me.
a. Now in Jeremiah, we see God also referred to God as our Father.
b. One important difference in this scripture is that God himself states the father/son relationship. Incidentally, one should be aware that the Koran states God is too great to speak to a human.
5. Isaiah 63:16......” Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O Lord, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting” (KJV).
6. Isa 64:8 KJV...... But now, o Lord, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.
7. Mal 2:10 KJV...... Have we not all one father? Hath not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

God is also, of course, referred to as our Father in the New Testament. Jesus emphasizes this personal relationship in the New Testament by addressing God as the Father. The term “Father” is applied to God over 90 times in the New Testament.
1. John 4:23-24 KJV...... But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
a. If Jesus is “God in the flesh,” Jesus’ statement is both incomplete and inaccurate.
b. Two verses later, Jesus says who he is – the Messiah. He also, many times, asserts that he is the Son of God. However, nowhere in scripture does Jesus claim he is God or 1/3 of a Godhead. Nowhere in scripture does Jesus explain that God is made up of different parts or different spirits.
2. 1 Corinthians 1Co 8:6 KJV...... But to us there is but one God, the father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
3. Eph 4:6 KJV...... One God and father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
4. Mat 5:16 KJV...... Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
5. Mat 11:25 KJV...... At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, o Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
6. Mat 6:9 KJV...... After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
7. Gal 1:1 KJV...... Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
8. Rom 1:7 KJV...... To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
9. Jude 1......“Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called” (KJV).

Despite the Catholic Trinity doctrine of a Godhead, the Nicene Creed actually states the one God (the Godhead) is the “Father.” “We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen.” There definitely seems to be a contradiction here. How can Jesus or the Holy Spirit be God if only the Father is the one God? This contradiction comes to light in the Athanasian Creed of circa 415 AD. It states that the Godhead is the “one God,” and that the Father is only “Lord.” The Anathasian Creed states,” So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God. So, likewise, the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord.”

MANMADE TERMS
Many churches have typical belief statements relating to the nature of God. None of these terms and phrases are in the Bible, yet it is awkward to explain the Trinity Doctrine without such terms as:
1. Three equally and fully divine Persons
2. The eternal triune God
3. One God eternally existing in three persons.
4. Jesus is fully God and fully human.
5. God in the flesh
6. God incarnate
7. God made flesh
8. God from God
9. Trinity
10. God made human
11. God on Earth
12. Godhead (not in the original Greek or Hebrew)
13. Of one nature and essence
14. God Jesus
15. Of one Being with the Father
16. Consubstantial
17. Hypostatic union
18. Shield of the Trinity
19. Not one, but three in one.
20. God the Son

WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?
What does the Old Testament say? Contrary to Trinity doctrine, the Holy Spirit is not a separate divine entity. Neither is he a “ghost.” The Holy Spirit is best described as the Spirit of God. Every Scripture that I could find in the Old Testament shows that the Spirit is not an independent spirit, as claimed by the Trinity doctrine, but a manifestation of God. The Holy Spirit knows everything that God knows and is controlled by God. The Holy Spirit reflects the very will and nature of God. One could say that the Holy Spirit is to God as the human spirit is to the human body. We see the following Scriptures use various terms to indicate that the Spirit is a part of God rather than an independent being. We see below the use of 4 different possessive descriptions used in the Old Testament.

We see specifically the God (Jehovah) who brought the Israelites out of Egypt is in fact the “Holy Spirit.” To believe otherwise, one must believe one being is speaking when the Spirit is mentioned and another being speaks when God is mentioned.
1. Genesis 1:2...... "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters" (KJV).
2. Neh.... 9:30 KJV...... Yet many years didst thou forbear them, and testified against them by thy spirit in thy prophets: yet would they not give ear: therefore gavest thou them into the
3. Num 24:2-4 NIV When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by tribe, the Spirit of God came on him and he spoke his message: "The prophecy of Balaam son of Beor, the prophecy of one whose eye sees clearly, the prophecy of one who hears the words of God, who sees a vision from the Almighty, who falls prostrate, and whose eyes are opened: hand of the people of the lands.
4. Isaiah 48:16...... ”Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me” (KJV).
5. Psalms 51:11...... ”Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me” (KJV).
6. Isa 63:11 NKJV...... Then he remembered the days of old, Moses and his people, saying: "Where is He who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of His flock? Where is He who put his Holy Spirit within them.

What does the New Testament say about the Holy Spirit? We read Jesus died, arose from the dead, and returned to heaven so the Holy Spirit could come and reside in every Christian. We see that the Father is the one that gives the comforter (Holy Spirit) to Jesus. Overall, we see again that the Holy Spirit belongs to God (the Father) and comes to us through Jesus Christ.
1. Mat 10:20 KJV...... For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
2. Romans 8:14 KJV......”For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.”
3. Matthew 3:11 KJV......”I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he [Jesus] shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.” What About the Father?
4. John 14:16 KJV......”And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another comforter, that he may abide with you for ever.”
5. John 14:26 KJV......”But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
6. 2Co 1:3 KJV...... Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
7. 1 Thessalonians 4:8 KJV......”He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his Holy Spirit.”
8. Matthew 12:32 KJV......”And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”
a. There is no mention of God or a Godhead in this verse because the Holy Spirit is actually God. To believe otherwise implies that one can be saved by rejecting both Jesus and God if one accepts the Holy Spirit. If one rejects the Trinity doctrine, this verse makes perfect sense. Specifically, if you reject the Spirit (AKA Jehovah, the Father), you are rejecting God, which is even worse than rejecting his son Jesus.
b. As far as this sin being unforgivable, it is generally believed that one will "not be forgiven" in the respect that God’s grace will not be given if the person denies God and dies without repenting. It is bad enough to reject Jesus, but there will be no mercy for those who die rejecting God and his Spirit.
c. Furthermore, one must notice that these people not only reject the Holy Spirit of God, but they also encourage others to do so by speaking against the very essence and existence of God.
9. Matthew 1:18......”Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost” (KJV).
a. I find it very revealing that Mary was made pregnant by the Holy Spirit.
b. If the Holy Spirit is a separate divine being, then why doesn't Jesus refer to the Holy Spirit as his father? Jesus never calls himself Son of the Spirit.
10. Rev 22:3 NIV...... No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him.
a. There is no throne for the Holy spirit mentioned anywhere in Revelation
b. The Holy Spirit is God, so there is no need for a third throne.
Is the Holy Spirit an “IT” or a “him?” Contrary to popular opinion, the Holy Spirit can be either depending on the context. This is not something I made up, but a law of proper English Grammar which is referenced in many dictionaries. A spirit is one aspect of a being. It is not his brain, it is not his intelligence, and. it is not his soul. It is generally considered the active part of a person’s personality that influences others. In this respect it is an aspect of a person’s being and is considered an “it.” However, if the word Spirit is used to represent the whole person, spirit becomes a “he.” Examples:
1. Our pastor, among other things, has a loving spirit, and everybody thinks “it” is wonderful.
2. Our pastor is a spirit of love, and everyone thinks “he” is wonderful.
In the Bible the terms “Holy Spirit.” And “Spirit” are used interchangeably more times than I can count. However, I did notice a pattern; when God influences people or is present, he is usually referred to as the Spirit, but when he physically does a miracle, he is usually referred to as God. This is in complete harmony with the definition of spirit and proper grammar. We see this dual reference to God in the first verses of the Bible. Gen 1:1-3 NIV.... “In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And GOD said, "Let there be light," and there was light.” Moreover, the Holy Spirit, as we have proven in the Old Testament, is a part of God. We have seen again in the New Testament that the Holy Spirit belongs to God. Furthermore, there is no scripture in the 66 books of the Bible where God has a conversation with the Spirit. That is because the Holy Spirit is a manifestation of God.

WHO IS JESUS?
Jesus has as many as 39 metaphoric names in the Bible. Jesus was called the Branch, the Root of Jesse, and the Root of David, but he is not a tree. He was called the Lamb, but he is not a sheep. He was called the Morning Star, but he is not a star. He is called the Son of man 88 times, but he has no earthy Father.
Jesus is definitely not God. Can you believe Jesus actually denied he is God? Jesus criticized the Pharisees who falsely accused him of making that claim. Jesus then corrected them by stating he is the “God’s Son.”
1. Joh 10:33-36 NIV...... "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." (34) Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'? (35) If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came - and Scripture cannot be set aside - (36) what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I AM GOD'S SON'?
a. Jesus is referring to Psa 82:6 NIV...... "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'
b. Gods can refer to judges or magistrates according to Strongs Concordance.
c. God is also shown to be a metaphor referring to the stomach in Php 3:19 KJV...... “Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.”
The term God is used 1372 times in the KJV New Testament. I cannot find any scripture that the word God literally refers to Jesus as God Jehovah. The name that best describes the divinity of Jesus not as God, but as the “Son of God.” Jesus is referred to as the Son of God 49 times, and Jesus himself claimed to be the Son of God 5 times as well as “The Son” many times. Jesus is referred to as the Son of God by 25 different people, and here are just a few examples:
a. Satan calls Jesus the Son of God. Luke 4:3...... ”And the devil said unto him, ‘If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread’” (KJV).
b. The demons call Jesus the Son of God. Mark 3:11...... ”And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, ‘Thou art the Son of God’” (KJV).
c. John the Baptist called Jesus the Son of God. John 1:34 KJV...... And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
d. The disciples called Jesus the Son of God. Matthew 14:33......”Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, ‘Of a truth thou art the Son of God’” (KJV).
e. Philip claimed Jesus was the Son of God. Act 8:37 KJV...... And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
f. Paul claimed Jesus was the Son of God. Acts 9:20...... ”And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God” (KJV).
g. Jesus testified before the Sanhedrin that he is the Son of God. Luke 22:69-70 KJV...... Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God. Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.
h. Peter says Jesus is the Son of God, and Jesus agrees. Matthew 16:15-17...... ”He saith unto them, ‘But whom say ye that I am?’ And Simon Peter answered and said, ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ And Jesus answered and said unto him, ‘Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven’“ (KJV).
i. Martha said Jesus is the Son of God. Joh 11:27 KJV...... She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
j. The one thief on the cross called Jesus the Son of God. Mat 27:43 KJV...... He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.
k. The centurion at Jesus’ crucifixion said Jesus is the Son of God. Mark 15:39...... ”And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, ‘Truly this man was the Son of God’” (KJV).
l. The criminal on the cross called Jesus the Son of God. Mat 27:43 NIV... He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, 'I am the Son of God.'"
m. Paul’s message to all Christians is that Jesus is the Son of God. Act 9:20 KJV...... And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

WHEN WAS JESUS FIRST CREATED?
First of all, I try to analyze when Jesus first existed without a biased to whether Jesus is God or not. We know for a fact that Jesus existed before his physical birth to Mary because of at least six verses that state Jesus came down from Heaven, or was sent by the Father:
1. Joh 3:13 KJV...... And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but HE THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, even the Son of man which is IN HEAVEN.
a. What did Jesus mean when he said he is "in heaven?" How can he be in heaven when he is here on Earth? Well. Jesus considered Heaven his permanent residence. We do the same thing when we are on vacation, and someone asks us where we live.
2. Joh 6:38 KJV...... FOR I CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
3. Joh 6:51 KJV...... I am the living bread which CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
4. Joh 16:28 KJ....... I CAME FORTH FROM THE FATHER, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
5. 1 John 4:9 KJV...... In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that GOD SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON INTO THE WORLD, that we might live through him
6. Joh 17:5 KJV...... And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with THE GLORY WHICH I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

Secondly, Jesus states he existed before Abraham's birth and before Satan's fall from Heaven. Many people concentrate on “I am” in John 5:8, and completely ignore “Before Abraham.” People also ignore the scripture where Jesus states he saw Satan fall from heaven.
1. Joh 8:58 KJV...... Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, BEFORE ABRAHAM was, I am. (Context – Jesus answered the Pharisees who asked him how he knew Abraham.)
2. Luke 10:18 KJV...... And he said unto them, I BEHELD SATAN as lightning fall from heaven.

Thirdly, the Bible tells us Jesus humbly gave up his heavenly form in exchange for human form to be obedient to God.
> Php 2:6-8 NIV...... Who, being in very nature God [spiritual], did not consider equality with God [spiritual] something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human [physical] likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient [to God] to death— even death on a cross!

Remember, even Satan and the angels existed before the creation of the earth, and they are not God. But one might ask, who created all things in Heaven and Earth?

WHO CREATED THE WORLD?
Many times, this question is incorrectly used to prove that Jesus is God. Why else would some scriptures say Jesus created all things,and others say God is the creator? This is a very valid and important question. However, we see that God appointed Jesus a s his helper to create all things in Heaven as well as Earth. Context seems to refer to the spiritual heaven and not limited to the heaven we see above us.
1. 1Co 8:5-6 KJV...... For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
2. Col 1:16 KJV...... For by him [Jesus] were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created BY him, and for him: The KJV makes this verse support the Trinity by using the same word “by” twice when Strongs shows #1722 “en” can mean “by.” However, the KJV second use of “by” is a different Geek word (Strong’s #1223 “dia” meaning the channel of an act, or through. We see the NIV, NKJV and others correct this misinterpretation.
3. Nevertheless, God, superior to Jesus created all things “for him.” In addition, some Bible versions say "through him” and others say, "by him."
a. NIV - Col 1:16..... For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
b. NKJV - Col 1:16....... For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
4. Eph 3:9-11 KJV..... And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: 10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:
a. Since scripture cannot contradict itself, we see Eph 3:9-11 also state that God was the ultimate creator and creation his eternal purpose was to do it in Jesus Christ. Again, the KJV mistranslates the word “dia” (See the NKJV). Notice also, the phrase “who created all things by Jesus Christ” does not appear in the NIV.
b. NKJV - Eph 3:9-11 and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ; 10 to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places, 11 according to the eternal purpose which He accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord,
5. Heb 1:1-2 KJV..... God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
a. The same verse in the NKJV - Heb 1:1-2 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
d. Also compare the NIV - Heb 1:1-2 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
e. The Greek “dia hos” is used in this verse which translates “BY WHOM” (God) KJV and “THROUGH WHOM” by the NIV and NKJV made the worlds. As all 3 scriptures tell us - God created the word through and for Jesus. (analogy: God was the developer, Jesus was the builder)

One should realize who Jesus said made the world! Jesus only gives credit to God, who he said previously, is greater than him.
1. Mat 19:4 KJV..... And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that HE [GOD] WHICH MADE THEM at the beginning made them male and female,
2. Mar 13:19 KJV..... For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation WHICH GOD CREATED unto this time, neither shall be.

However, Jesus’ preexistence and creation of all things does not make him God. It should be clear that God is the ultimate creator, although Jesus was used as a vessel for that creating. After all, many fathers use their sons to do certain things which they ordain, pay for, and supervise. God did certainly not need help, but he included the Son out of love. To think otherwise, is to believe the Bible contradicts itself. Only the Catholic Church can try to justify this by creating a theory called the Trinity Doctrine.

WHO IS THE GOD OF JESUS?
The Bible not only states there is only one God, and we are specifically told the Father is the god of Jesus. Jesus did not send himself to earth, but he was sent by his god and Father. Jesus refers to the Father as his god 53 times, so how can Jesus be equal to the Father? For example:
1. Mat 27:46 KJV...... And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
2. John 8:54 KJV...... Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
3. John 20:17.....”Jesus saith unto her, touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God” (KJV)
4. Revelation 3:12......"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name (KJV).
a. This quote is Jesus speaking. Four times Jesus refers to God (the Father) as "my God." Realize this verse pictures Jesus in heaven, where he should be fully God, so that so of rules-out hypostatic union.
b. Does the temple belong to Jesus or to God? Did not Jesus call the temple his Father's house?
c. Does the New Jerusalem belong to Jesus or God?
5. Rev 1:6 KJV...... "And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen." Jesus is not called God in this akward translation.
a. Bishops...... “vnto God euen his Father”
b. NIV...... “his God and Father”
c. NKJV...... “to His God and Father”
d. ASV...... “unto his God and Father”
e. h. NRSV...... “serving his God and Father”
f. Strong’s 2532 shows the Greek word between God and Father as kai (#2632) used as a copulative or cumulative word.
6. Eph 1:3 KJV...... Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
7. Eph 1:17 KJV...... that the god of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
8. 2Co 11:31 KJV.... The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.

EQUALITY DISPROVEN
In contrast to the equality concept of the "three in one" idea, even the titles of Father and Son disprove this belief. The following Scriptures clearly state the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not equal, and there is only one God who is the Father. These Scriptures leave no room for believing the Father and Jesus are equal.
1. Mark 10:18 NIV..... “Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
2. All things have been committed to the Son by the Father. (Matt 11:27)
3. Jesus tells us to always pray to the Father. (Matt 6:9)
4. Jesus cannot send the Holy Spirit without the Father’s permission. (John 14:16)
5. Jesus states that only the Father knows when the end will come. (Matt 24:36)
6. Jesus tells us to worship the Father. (John 4:23)
7. Jesus is the mediator between God and man. (1 timothy 2:5)
8. Jesus can do nothing without the Father. (John 5:30)
9. Jesus states the Father tells him how to judge. (John 5:30)
10. Jesus showed the Father controlled his fate. (Matt 26:39)
11. Jesus often called the heavenly Father his God (Matt 27:46, John 20:17, Rev 3:12)
12. The disciples worshiped Jesus not as God, but only as the Son of God. (Matthew 14:33)
13. Paul says God is the head of Jesus. (1Co 11:3 KJV) “and the head of Christ is God.”
14. The Holy Ghost (AKA God) is greater than Jesus. Luk 12:10 KJV...... And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

Hypostatic Union states the Father only is greater than Jesus while Jesus was on earth, but Jesus returned to Heaven to be God again. Jesus never said this, but this belief is part of the Catholic Trinity Doctrine. To the contrary, even after Jesus is crucified, the Bible clearly states that the Father is still greater than Jesus. Think about it; all the books following the Gospels speak of a Jesus that is in heaven. Jesus is still referred to as the Son who must obey the Father, and still no mention of a triune God. In fact, Jesus told Mary he will ascend to his God, the Father. There, Jesus will not be God, but sit at the right hand of God. All this is why Heaven is never called the Kingdom of Jesus or the Kingdom of the Spirit. However, it is called the Kingdom of God, and Jesus also refers to it as the kingdom of his Father. Scripture states Jesus, not Jehovah, came down from Heaven to be flesh and returned to Heaven to be spirit again. Remember, the Catholic Trinity Doctrine falsely states Jesus is 100% God (Jehovah).
1. John 14:28......”Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I” (KJV).
2. Jesus will sit at his Father’s right hand. (Matt 26: 64, Mark 16:19, Heb 12:2)
3. Mat 26:29 KJV..... But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

SUMMARY OF THE TRINITY - FACT OR FICTION
1. Logic and common sense prove the Trinity doctrine as being false. The Trinity doctrine is full of hypocrisy. No amount of human explanation can show how 3=1.
2. More important than human logic, it is scripture that proves the Trinity doctrine as being false.
Scripture states that the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are united in purpose and will, but the Catholic Trinity doctrine arbitrarily says they are united in equal essence, and are one Godhead. The idea of a triune god or triune Godhead is not mentioned nor explained anywhere in Scripture. Jesus even denies he is God. Nevertheless, some cross John 10:31-36 out of their Bible, and, just like the Pharisees, try to prove Jesus said he is God. Moreover, the Bible contradicts the Trinity doctrine in the following ways:
a. Jesus says to Mary that the Father is his God.
b. Even after his ascension, Jesus claimed the Father is his God 4 times in one verse. (Rev 3:12)
c. Jesus always is subordinate to God, and says the Father is Greater.
d. Jesus tells us to pray only to the Father.
e. Jesus says the Father tells him how to judge and who to forgive.
f. Jesus says the Father created all things.
g. Jesus sits not on God’s throne, but on a throne to the right of God, and no throne for the Holy Spirit.
h. Only one part of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit is part of the “Unforgivable Sin.” Why is it OK to speak against Jehovah and Jesus, but it is unforgivable to speak against the Holy Spirit?
i. The Holy Spirit makes Mary pregnant, but Jesus did not claim to be the son of the Spirit.
j. The Holy Spirit never has a conversation with the Father in any of the 30,102 verses of the Bible. Why does the Holy Spirit speak to others, but not to the Father?
3. History also shows the Trinity doctrine to be false. The Trinity doctrine did not exist at the time of Jesus and his disciples. The disciples did not have it in their creed, the early church had no mention of a triune god until more than 250 years after Christ. The Trinity theory was introduced in 325 AD, but it took 56 years to formulate and approve it. The Catholic Trinity Doctrine probably would not have been approved even then, except for the emperors’ Edict of Thessalonica mandating the Catholic Church approve it. Once approved, a person could be excommunicated, jailed or even killed if he did not believe in the Trinity doctrine. This went on for 1200 years. It is no wonder the Catholic Trinity doctrine is so ingrained in Christendom.
4. Finally, the Father knows all things and created the universe. Therefore, the Father existed before the universe and before all other heavenly beings. We have no idea how or when the heavenly Jesus came into existence, but we do know he pre-existed his natural birth because he saw Satan fall from heaven, he existed before Abraham, was sent from heaven. In addition, several other scriptures credit Jesus as taking part in creation, and Jesus said he is going to RETURN to the Father. Regardless, Jesus is clearly not God. God gave us the Father and Son relationship example so we can know they are not equal. If there is a Triune God, the people in Jesus’ day should have had more questions than us. After all, they did not have the Catholic Church to explain it to them. Moreover, nobody even asked Jesus to explain what no man can understand – a triune God. (However, the RCC has creeds and a Catechism to explain it perfectly) Simon Peter knew exactly who Jesus was and said, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ And Jesus answered and said unto him, ‘Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven’” (Matt16:16-17 KJV).

REVIEW
1. Discuss how we first got the term “Trinity.” Does the term “Trinity” have a different meaning to various people?
2. Do you believe a Bible translation should be as close as possible to the Greek manuscripts, or do you believe the KJV is endorsed by God, even if changes were made and words added?
3. Do you believe Scripture explains a Godhead with three personalities?
4. Since YHWH (Jehovah) is God's name, do you think the Godhead is God or is the Father to be considered God? Explain.
5. Discuss how one should determine if a word should be taken literally or figuratively.
6. What is the main belief that separates Christians from other religious groups?
7. Did the Father create earth or did Christ? Explain.
8. Discuss if we should get caught up in convincing people to believe in the Trinity?
9. How do we explain to others who Jesus really is?

BIBLICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT GOD, HIS SON, AND HIS HOLY SPIRIT
1. Who is the one God that created us?
• Mal 2:10-11…... Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? KJV
• Eph 4:4-6…... There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. KJV
2. Who is the God who raised Jesus from the dead?
• Gal 1:1…... Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) KJV
3. Who is both our God and the God of Jesus?
• John 20:17…... Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. KJV
4. Who did Satan say Jesus is?
• Luke 4:3......”And the devil said unto him, ‘If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread’” (KJV).
5. Who did the demons say Jesus is?
• Mark 3:11......”And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, ‘Thou art the Son of God’” (KJV).
6. Who did the centurion say Jesus is?
• Mark 15:39......”And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, ‘Truly this man was the Son of God’” (KJV).
7. Who did the disciples say Jesus is?
• Matthew 14:33......”Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, ‘Of a truth thou art the Son of God’” (KJV).
8. Who did Paul say Jesus is?
• Acts 9:20......”And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God” (KJV).
9. Who did the apostle John say we should confess that Jesus is?
• 1 John 4:15.....”Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God” (KJV).
10. Did Peter say is Jesus God or the Son of God?
• Matt 16:15-17…...He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. KJV
11. Who did Jesus say he is?
• Luke 22:70…... Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am. KJV
12. Who tells Jesus how to judge and what to do?
• John 5:30...... I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me” (KJV).
13. Who does Jesus pray to?
• Matt 27:46…... And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? KJV
14. Even in Heaven, who is greater than Jesus?
• John 14:28…... Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. KJV
15. Who does Jesus tell true worshippers to worship?
• John 4:23.....”But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him” (KJV).
16. Who sends the Holy Spirit?
• John 14:16......”And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another comforter, that he may abide with you for ever” (KJV).
17. Who does the (Holy) Spirit belong to?
• Gen 1:1-2…... In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. KJV
18. Even in the end time, who is the God of Jesus?
• Revelation 3:12......"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name (KJV).
19. In the future who will answer our requests?
• In that day you will no longer ask me anything. I tell you the truth, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete. NIV