MY MOSQUE VISIT OUTLINE
MOSQUE SEMINAR - 7-23-2016
(Often called “community centers” in western countries)
Outline of Seminar at Islamic Community Center of Lancaster
1. Islamic Community Center of Lancaster - three predictions I made to a friend that turned out true.
a. No Imam would address us. (An Imam should not contradict his sermons)
b. No mention of Koran (Don’t open a can of worms)
c. No mention of other countries. (Proof that Islam is not a religion of peace.)
2. We were told differences in Islam exist because of cultural and political differences in ideology. A complete lie proven by the Koran, Muslim history, and Muslim countries today.
3. We were told Muhammad taught against racism and Allah loves all people. This statement is simply a lie. It is true that Islam does not discriminate based on race in the respect that people of any race may become Muslim. The other half of the truth is that the Koran discriminates based on religion. Muhammad’s whole message in the Koran is aimed at only believers and how they should subjugate unbelievers. Allah does NOT love unbelievers. (Surah 3:32)
4. We were told there is no forced conversion or compulsion in religion. The word “compulsion” is the key here and should be taken in the context of the verse referred to in the Koran.
a. Surah 2:256…… There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct…. from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.
b. You can see that the word compulsion is used as its second definition in the dictionary which means doing something that is done without self-control. This verse has nothing to do with other people (neither do the adjoining verses). Instead, it has to do with an internal conscious effort to reject Satan and obey Allah instead of a blind compulsive belief
5. We were told the Koran teaches peace and does not teach violence. Again, the Koran, Islamic history, and wolrd wide Islam prove this wrong.
6. The speakers make it sound like Muslims believe in the same books as us – Old Testament, New Testament, Torah, etc. They tried to make it sound as if Christians, Jews and Muslims all share the same beliefs because of Abraham. The full truth is much more complicated. The Koran even says Abraham was a “[Muslim]” who submits to Allah (not the Jehovah of the Bible).
7. They made it sound like they believe in the same God as us. - Term God was used instead of Allah, but when pressed, no true Muslim will equate our Allah with Jehovah. Many, if not most Muslims will only refer to their God as “Allah.” ‘Allah” is the actual name of the Muslim god and it is blasphemy to call him Jehovah. Traditional Muslims tend to not even use the term “God” when talking to Christians or Jews.
8. We were told the Koran teaches never to drink wine,
Surah 4:43….. O you who believe! do not go near prayer when you are Intoxicated until you know [well] what you say, nor when you are under an obligation to perform a bath-- UNLESS [you are] travelling on the road-- until you have washed yourselves; and if you are sick, or on a journey, or one of you come from the privy or you have touched the women, and you cannot find water, betake yourselves to pure earth, then wipe your faces and your hands; surely Allah is Pardoning, Forgiving.
9. Concerning treatment of women - They used examples of driving and education which could not possibly be mentioned in the Koran. This was equivalent to a cheap carnival trick. We were made to believe that the Koran teaches women should be treated fairly and equally. This is blatantly untrue. The speaker even said he was unaware that the Koran says it is OK for a man to beat his wife (Surah 4:34) How could I know more about the Koran than them? This fits my earlier belief as to why we did not speak to an Imam. An Imam would have to admit what the Koran says. There are many verses in the Koran stating beating a wife, marital rape, forced marriage of prisoners, unequal treatment of women, and having multiple wives is the way of Allah.
a. We should first look at Muhammad who married Aisha, a 6-year-old girl and had sex with her at age 9. Muhammad also had twelve wives. In addition, he had 3 sex slaves. This is historic factual general knowledge and I have never seen any writing dispute it.
b. A few verses about unfair treatment of women: Surah 2:223…... Surah 2:228...... Surah 4:3...... Surah 4:176...... Surah- 4:11…... Surah 4:15...... Surah 24:4...... Surah 4:34...... Surah 33:50-51......
c. There are at least 4 verses instructing women to wear a veil.
10. Charity – They showed us how involved they are in the community.
a. We do not know how much money they gave to each charity. Did they give $25. Or $2,500?
b. They mentioned “Circles” of Lancaster. Circles is a division of the Lancaster Community Action Program (CAP).
11. A question was asked about honor killings. This practice was denied as being a Muslim belief.
a. Books by Muslims who converted to Christianity state differently. So does the Hadith.
b. Hadith 9:57….. “If a Muslim changes his faith, kill him” This is a reported verse from the Hadith.
12. Muhammad Ali was portrayed as a typical Muslim.
a. Ali was a Suffi Muslim for most of his adult life. Sufism is a mystic form of Islam. Sufi Muslims are considered outcasts by many Muslims because they reject any authority of Islamic structure such as caliphs. Sufi Muslims are a very small percentage of all Muslims. Therefore, to compare Ali’s later life to typical Muslims is inaccurate.
b. Ali was a more radical Muslim when he first became Muslim and joined the Muslim Brotherhood. History shows his radical statements up to the age of 35. Comparing his early life with his later Sufi life gives a prime example of two extreme forms of Islam.
13. Associated with MLFA
a. I noticed a plaque laying on top of a bookshelf. Since it was not on the wall, I wondered what is on it. It came from the MLFA.
b. At least half of the Board of Directors of the Muslim Legal Fund (MFLA) is comprised of individuals who are leaders in the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood organizations
c. the MLFA backed the Holy Land Foundation as the latter became subject of the largest terrorism-financing prosecution in U.S. history.